Pubs of Redhill

Note - Most pub names are preceded by the word 'The' but in the list below that word is omitted in the interests of brevity so will have to be assumed. Pubs named in Black are no longer with us; Pubs names in Grey indicate that the name has been changed; pubs shown in Red are serving beer.

Abbott Station Road East

One of a breed of new pubs whose names appear to be picked with a pin. Built in 1997.


The number of pubs in Redhill town centre had been on the decline for years prior to the arrival the first of the new pubs the Sun, followed by the Abbott, which was built on a plot of ground in Station Road next to the Arcade where other buildings had been demolished as a part of the regeneration of Redhill, and diagonally opposite the railway station. Plans were approved in May 1996. Here building has just got under way, and in the 2nd picture the girder work is in place and the size of the finshed building can be judged


Work approaching completion in 1997. The notice on the white hoarding says 'A NEW GREENE KING PUB, THE ABBOTT'. How the name was arrived at is unknown.

Albatross - see 'The Joshua Tree'

Anchor - see The Garland

Bell
North Street (Added thanks to email from Arthur Hawkes - see bottom of this page)

Stood opposite the old Test Centre. Demolished 1958/59. May have had an ale house associated with it, perhaps located as a separate building at the rear. (If anyone has a picture I would be very grateful for a copy - AJM)
Additional information from Richard Symonds about the Bell
Situated in North Street, Redhill (street address approx no 39). A beer retailer and later a public house circa 1900 when George Charman was landlord. Later demolished. The Reigate petty-sessional report 1892 described the property as a beerhouse, licensed prior to 1869; owned by Charles Dagnall of Horley, brewer, and tied by trade to the Hornchurch Brewery Co. The tavern was run by C Aldridge who resided on the premises. The Inn was frequented by Cottagers and gardeners. (Charles Dagnall was plying his trade from the Five Bells, Horley, where there was a brewhouse attached.)

Britannia Brighton Road

The Britannia once stood on what is now the frontage of Pet's Mart. Started as a 19c beer shop and demolished when the road was widened in 1960.
Picture courtesty Mr S.Sharp

Information from Richard Symonds - Built in the 19^th century as a beershop the Sharp family had occupancy for over 40 years. The Petty Sessional report 1892 lists the Britannia as a beerhouse, licensed prior to 1869. Owned and tied for trade to Messrs Crowley of Croydon, brewers; Run by E Baldock who resided on the premises; Frequented by cottagers and labourers. List of proprietors: - 1900-1905 David Sharp - 1909-1910 Mrs N Sharp - 1915-1930 Archibald Sharp 1932-1940 Mrs Florence E Sharp 1940-1942 Daniel Fergusson Spottiswood 1942-1944 Mrs Elsie V Martin 1946–1954 J R Martin 1954–1960. Edwin Howard.

Bricklayers Arms Gatton Point (Also known as the Monson Arms)

There is a small mystery about this public house. On the 1861 map it is shown at Gatton Point and listed simply as a public house owned and occupied by William Peters, no name being given. On the 1871 map shown below it is clearly shown as being the Bricklayers Arms. In an Allinghams street directory of c1885-8 it is listed as the Monson Arms and the name of the occupier is W. Rowland. Information from a lost source has the pub demolished in 1891, and reference to a street directory of 1898 (the next chronologically that I have) shows that there is no mention of it. As no other information is available we can only accept that the records are correct and that this pub existed under at least two names.

This 1871 map shows London Road joining Croydon Road at Gatton Point, here called Gatton Corner. It is reported to have been demolished in 1891 and is not listed in the 1898 street directory

Brickmakers Arms Kings Avenue

Kings Avenue was also known as 'Sots Hole' because of the drunks produced by the pub. Lost its licence by 1910.
Picture and above courtesy Richard Symonds

Notes re children from the Brickmakers Arms attending St John's School
Herbert Abram, born 11.6.1882, started at St John's Infants' School on 16.4.1888, parent William Abram, address Brickmaker's Arms, (reg. No. 25) May Abram born 30.4.1884, started at St John's Infants' School on 3.12.1888, parent William Abram, Brickmaker's Arms, Kings Alley (entry 652) John Moore, born 30.8.1891, started at St John's Infants' School 30.8.1991, parent Elizabeth Moore, Brickmaker's Arms, Kings Alley (register entry 652) Lily Moore, born 1.3.1890, started at St John's Infants' School on 1.5.1893, parent Louis Moore, address Brickmakers Arms , Kings Alley (entry 534) Florence Maud Millard born 7.3.1894, started at St John's Infants' School 27.8.1900, parent William, addresss The Bricklayers Arms (register No. 894)

Email received 9.3.2005 - My Aunt and Uncle, Ethel and Roff Biggs lived in Kings Avenue from the 1930's to about 1962. When I was a boy I was told how there used to be a rowdy beer house nearby and my uncle claimed to have dug up a number of very old bottles over the years when digging his garden. This is the first time I have ever seen a picture of this pub, or had any proof of it's existence. Very interesting. Mark Chadwick

Bridge Hotel Arch Road
Built by Thomas Barefoot in 1854 and bought by the Royal Earlswood Asylum in 1863. Demolished(?).
There was a public house in Redhill, the name of which was at first unknown and seemed to pose a mystery. It was in, or on the site of, the building now occupied by the Jolly Tots Nursery that stands next to the railway bridge under which the left fork into the grounds of the Royal Earlswood Asylum, now a housing estate, passes. This road links the main A23 across Earlswood Common to Princes Way, Earlswood. Its existence was brought to my attention by Gary Brown who emailed me as follows:
- Alan, this may or may not be relevant , but I have bought one of the lodge houses at the Royal Earlswood Asylum. We advertised for any information on the lodges but unfortunately drew a blank. While looking into the site of the Asylum I was informed that the building now used for Jolly Tots Nursery was indeed an inn or pub. This lies on Asylum Arch Road across the golf course under a railway bridge. My house is West Lodge , and lies on the junction to asylum arch road and Prince's road - Regards Gary Brown .
..........Not having any previous knowledge of the building in question I went to have a look. I parked and walked by West Lodge just as Gary Brown was driving out. He stopped and we had a chat, he showed me around West Lodge and then I went to look at the building. The people now in occupation said they knew nothing of its origins and had no deeds. I left none the wiser and went home to consult maps.
..........The only record I could find of the pub was on Eve's tithe map of 1860, where the building and the ground it occupied is referred to in item 52 on page 25 of the accompanying terrier as being owned by a Dr. Andrew Reed. (Dr.Reed was a leading philanthropist of the time and founder of the Earlswood Asylum). The property was occupied by a Richard Eldridge and stated to consist of the public house itself, a garden and an orchard. Richard Eldridge was also listed as occupier of the neighbouring plots 50, 51, 53, 54 and 55, all of which were fields and were again owned by Dr Reed. The London Brighton and South Coast Railway was situated to the west of the public house (carried by the adjacent bridge I mentioned) and the Earlswood Asylum was also very close by, being slightly south of the building in question. The public house was on a (then) unnamed road to the west of Prince's Road which still exists today. This is Asylum Arch Road named in Gary's email.
..........I emailed the Surrey history Centre at Woking who compared the site of plot number 52 on the 1860-61 parish map to several of the Ordnance Survey maps that they hold for the same area. The first edition map of 1871 shows two buildings on the site, neither of which is labelled as being a public house. Later editions for 1896, 1913 and 1934 show a slightly larger building on the site occupied by the building on the left of the earlier map and which is labelled as a school on the 1934 edition only. A later Ordnance Survey map of 1962 (scale 1:2500, ref. TQ2748), shows a building of the same outline on the site again but it is not labelled as a school. The building is again on an unnamed road which links to Prince's Road on the east and to the Brighton Road (A23) on the west.
..........They also checked Kelly's Directory of Surrey for the years 1855 and 1867 but were not able to find any references to the owners or the occupiers of the public house in the sections for Reigate and Redhill. The electoral registers for the same period for the eastern division of Surrey again did not include entries for either Richard Eldridge or Dr Andrew Reed in the section for the Reigate area.
..........Finally, they checked the County of Surrey Detailed Return of Fully-Licensed Houses and Beer Houses in the Several Petty Sessional Divisions, February 1892. The section for the Borough of Reigate and which includes Reigate Foreign, lists a number of pubs in the Earlswood and Brighton Road areas but without an address for the building in question, it was difficult to say whether any of these might be the place that was being searched for. The probability is that by this date the building had long since ceased to be a public house.
..........Then I finally associated this pub with the Bridge Hotel I already had an entry for, except that I had always thought of the Arch Road reference as meaning Three Arch Road. Substitute Asylum Arch Road instead and the mystery is solved. Grateful thanks to Gary Brown for the original email and to Rhona Leyland for the investigative work at Surrey History Centre. AJM May 2002. . .

Causeway, Corner of Three Arch Road and London Road, Salfords

Built on the site of the old Nags Head and opened on 22nd of May 1997 this is another pub whose name could be anything so long as it has nothing whatsoever to do with its location. In this case the pub was named after Causeway Finances who provided Mill House Inns (no connection with the Mill House at Salfords) with the money to build a number of such premises, of which the this one was the nineteenth. And location was specific, because reference to the Nags Head could also mean the immediate vicinity of the pub without the pub being directly mentioned, whereas now reference to the area is more often connected with Three Arch Road or the hospital traffic lights than the Causeway pub. In fact there are those who still refer to the area as the Nags Head and those of us who know where they mean.
Inside the old Nags Head. A £400 pile of pennies about to be pushed over in April 1996. The
money was collected by regulars of the Nags Head for the Royal National Institute for the Blind.


The Nags Head as it was before it was was demolished to make way for The Causeway	A side view of the Nags Head looking south	The vacant site (on the right) when the Nags had been demolished


The vacant site from the north	Some of the managers of the companies connected with the building of the Causeway pulling the first pint at the opening ceremony IN 1997	BUT IN 2007 The Causeway pub closed around the beginning of October 2006 after only nine years of trading..

These three pictures were taken by Martin Wells and sent by email. Martin wrote: 'Picture 1 (left) shows the actual moment the sign was being felled. I was taking my daughters to school and was stopped at the traffic lights. The man on the right is retreating with a chain saw having cut the base, and the two men on the left are in the process of pulling it down. Pictures 2&3 (below) were taken later that day through the car window.' Grateful thanks to Martin or sending them in and for being in the right place with a camera at the right time..
Workmen pull down the sign (picture 1 by Martin Wells)


A last view of the pub (Picture 2 by Martin Wells)	Fencing going up - site to be redeveloped (Picture 3 by Martin Wells)

Crocks High Street (see Dog and Duck)

Chestnut Earlswood Originally the Station Hotel

Victor Francis Rogers born 17.11994, started at St John's Infants' School 1.11.1897, parent John Rogers, addresss The Station Inn (register No. 936)

Dog and Duck Corner of High Street and Cromwell Road

Originally the Tower, then Crocks, now the Office, this pub holds the record locally for name changes. It had two storeys until around the 1920s when a third was added.


The two-storey Tower public house in 1886	The Tower c1900 with a 'PORTER' board on its Cromwell Road side.	In this pre-1934 picture of Redhill High Street the building is still only two storeys high

By the 1950s a third floor and the Tower Wine Store had been added. Presumably the old building had been completely demolished and a new one built.	By 1993 the redevelopment of Redhill had left the pub, now called Crocks, as one of the few remaining old pubs in the town	The pub when it was known as The Office
	Left: - In April 1998 the cladding of the pub front with timber accompanied the name being changed to the Dog and Duck Right: - The Tower pub in the 1950s or 60s from a painting by Mr Cannon. See also information from Barbara Pocock about the Tower ph posted immediately below for the Dragon
Email from A.J.Miller 20th March 2007 - It would appear that the license of the Tower Inn "passed" from Henry Topliss (who was still alive and “inn-keeper” at the census of 3^rd-4^th April 1881), possibly via or because of his daughter, Caroline, to her second husband, Henry Rowland (her first husband Alfred Peskett died on 3^rd February 1888 and she remarried in the 2^nd quarter of 1890). The 1891 census records Henry Rowland as “Licensed Victualler” at 33 High Street. Henry Rowland died in 1893 and, at the 1901 census; William Henry Peskett – Caroline’s son by Alfred Peskett – was recorded as “Licensed Victualler”. I’m afraid I am unable to shed light on the licence between Henry Topliss’ death and 5^th April 1891 or between then and 31^st March 1901 as I have only the census data; though it may be a reasonable assumption that it stayed within the family rather than going out and returning. I have no knowledge about the ownership of the property itself, though might suspect it was in the family as I would have thought it more likely that an heir to the property become licensee; I have no knowledge of licensing law at all, let alone at that time, but would be surprised if a licence could be inherited then, though would envisage one was easier to obtain if it could be shown that the person had worked in the trade. There is no indication of Alfred (or Caroline) working at the Tower – he was a stone mason – though that would not preclude him and/or her helping, as they seem to have been living there in 1881.Alfred and Caroline are on an offshoot of the Peskett line that I am tracing. I have no contact with that branch of the family and can offer no more information or sources. The census and BMD data are in the public domain, all I am providing is the fruit of my research into it. Do feel free to use the information and pass it to the Barbara Pocock mentioned as providing information on your site, though she clearly has more interest in the Topliss line. In this 1950s picture the shop blind obscures most of the Tower pub but at least the sign is visible. (picture Alan Moore)

Dragon (formerly George and Dragon) Cromwell Road

Previously the George and Dragon, a much better name. Like all Redhill pubs the Dragon has benefited from the office development, especially in the summer as it had a prominent garden and attracts a plentiful clientele..

Information from Richard Symonds The Dragon - formerly the George & Dragon. (39?) Cromwell Road, Redhill Deeds I have seen are: 4 Oct 1862 Conveyance. British land Co to Mr William Woodman, who purchased the land at Auction 18th Sept 1862. 26 March 1864. Conveyance. William Woodman to Nalder & Collyer, brewers, Croydon. 26 March 1864. Mortgage. Nalder & Collyer to Mrs & Miss Cox, for receiving £500 and interest at 5%. 31 Dec 1883. Reconveyance. Executors under the will of Miss Mary Cox to Howard Nalder. 3 Nov 1888. Conveyance. The George & Dragon PH from Howard Nalder and Howard Frederick Nalder Esquires to Nalder & Collyers Brewery Co Ltd (this is obviously when N&C became a Ltd company). 7 jan 1964. Copy extract from the deed of Exchange. Ind Coope Ltd and Ind Coope (London) Ltd. Petty Sessional report 1892 gives The George & Dragon, West Street. Fully Licensed. Owned and tied for trade by Nalder & Collyer of Croydon, brewers. Run by C Alford who resides on the premises. Frequented by Tradesmen and artisans.
List of landlords: - 1878. Edward Goodson Alford -1891-1895 Caroline Alford - 1882. Elizabeth Alford - 1900-1902. Charles Doughty - 1902-1930 Gilbert F Topliss - 1936-1956. Harry D Topliss - 1965-1968. A F Sims

Additional
This WW1 Memorial board, or Roll of Honour, used to be on the wall of the George and Dragon. The 2nd name, that of Cpl S.Topliss, was that of the brother of landlord Gilbert Topliss listed above.

Picture of Memorial board courtesy Mr Murray

The only older picture I have of the Dragon is this one from 1961 when nearby flats were being built in Sincots Road. The pub, then the George and Dragon, is seen left of picture at the bottom of the hill. The building alongside it has been replaced by the present extension.

Right is a picture from an elevated position in 2002 that shows the setting of the pub, with what was once Cromwell Road secondary School behind.
(Many thanks to Graham Bartlett for this picture)

With the name changed to the George and Dragon and the nearby road layout altered the pub now caters for many of the office population of the town. Here the garden is in good use on a sunny day in the 1990s.

........Further information received from Barbara Pocock. I have just been looking at your web site and in particular details of the pubs in Redhill. In respect of the George & Dragon I was interested to see the list of Landlords. Gilbert Frederick Topliss shown as the Landlord 1902 to 1930 was my husband's Great Grandfather and we have his pewter beer mug which used to hang behind the bar at the George & Dragon. Although your note shows him as Landlord from 1902, the 1901 Census shows him as the Publican of the George and Dragon.
.........Harry Davey Topliss shown as the Landlord from 1936 to 1956 was one of Gilbert's sons, as was Stanley Topliss shown on the Roll of Honour. Also, Gilbert Frank Topliss, another son of Gilbert Fredrick Topliss and brother of Harry Davey Topliss and Stanley Topliss was Landlord of The Nob (now the Joshua Tree) for a few years about 50 years ago.
........I was sorry to see that there was not much detail in respect of the Tower Inn as Gilbert Frederick Topliss's father Henry Topliss was the Publican at the Tower Inn in Redhill from at least 1861 to his death in 1881 and several of his children, of which there were 12, worked at the Tower at some stage. In the early 1860's Henry was also a Town Councillor and a member of the Reigate Volunteer Fire Brigade.
........Pubs obviously ran in the family because Henry's eldest daughter Caroline Elizabeth Topliss married Alfred Peskett whose father William Peskett was the Publican of The Jolliffe Arms Merstham from at least 1861 to his death in 1883. Another of Henry's children, Walter Topliss was Publican at Leigham Arms in Streatham.
........Many thanks for the information, Barbara

Earlswood Arms
Elm Shades Pendleton Road

For all of its life to 1995 known as the Elm Shades, Shepherd and Neame decided to change the name to the Earlswood Arms after a two month refurbishment. No one seemed to like the change and the name was returned to the original Elm Shades in July 2002. As far as is known this is the only local pub this has happened to.

As Elm Shades left and Earlswood Arms right

Email re Elm Shades,
Interesting reading through your page on pubs, my father Roy Woolsey was landlord of the Elm Shades for over 20 years during 70s 80s and 90s. He also was the landlord in charge of the Anchor and was responsible for renovating and renaming it to the Garland. I ran the Garland for quite a few years in the early 90s.We as a family, have lived in Redhill for nearly 40 years, originally living in the house next door to the Elm Shades (24, Fountain Road St Johns) I now live on the old General Hospital Site, St Johns Park, where I was born, my youngest now goes to St Johns, where I also attended as a child. If you need any further info on these premises, or are missing any info on the above areas I will be only too happy to help. Andy Woolsey.

As a result of the no smoking ban due on July 1st 2007 Shepherd Neame, the owners of the Elm Shades, decided to enhance and expand outside areas of many of their pubs for smokers. When this work was being carried out at the Elm Shades a well was discovered.

The well has been made a central feature in the new area along with two old iron bedheads that were found in it. These have been hung on the wall and can be seen in the background.	The water level is about thirty feet down. The bricks in the wall have no frogs so are probably victorian. The edge of the water shows as a broken circle of light. The opening of the top of the well is seen as a round patch of light with the outline of myself taking the picture.	The view to the road from the smoking area

The smoking area is a considerable size, containing two 'jumbrellas' with heaters.	There is also a boule area where matches are played against other pubs	The pub's name at the end of the boule area is made up from the letters saved when it was changed back from THE EARLSWOOD ARMS.
		Thanks to Pete, the licencee, and his wife, for giving me a tour of the pub area and allowing the above pictures to be taken and shown here.
The bar	The bar area

Firlot and Firkin Corner of High Street and Station Road West
This name is in pink because of recent name change (July 2001) to O'Neills
And again to The Junction at Redhill July 2007


The Wheatsheaf c1890 as originally built	After rebuilding in 1900	The name change to O'Neills took place in July 2001. This picture taken in 2002

Known as the Wheatsheaf for well over a century this pub couldn't be more central if it tried. Either you have no opinion about pub name changes or you feel that the change to the Firlot and Firkin was as ridiculous as the change to the name of Reigate's Red Cross. No doubt future generations will look back and say it was a sign of the times and as such is a part of history. However, with the changes that have taken place in the town, O'Neill's seemed to fit a little better with the modern town scene. And now (July 2007) there's another change, this time to The Junction at Redhill. Name changes are making it a little silly that this pub is still listed here under Firlot and Firkin - perhaps I'll get around to laying this page out differently to reflect rapidly changing trends - or perhaps I'll just leave it until the next change is made.
.....As the Wheatsheaf it was probably built fairly early on in Redhill's history when people were more familiar with wheatsheafs, but the present building is not the original, the old one having been demolished and rebuilt as the present structure in 1900. There was a bit of controversy about the woodwork that gives its attractiveness, as it apparently flaunted a law stating how much protection from fire there must be in all new buildings at the time. Ironically, before it was a year old it had its roof damaged by fire as a consequence of the Nicols building opposite burning to the ground in Redhill's worst ever fire. ..................................... This picture of the Wheatsheaf kindly sent in by Bob Sargent
.....I offered the Charge Hand £50 for the Wheatsheaf sign when the building was
renovated and the name changed in the late 1990s but obviously spoke to the wrong person as the Clerk of Works gave it to someone else - a bit of a Firlot and Firkin shame.
.....Anyway, the pub has since changed hands; it's no longer owned by Mitchell and Butler and is now a Trust Inns pub - see pictures below.

After several week's refurbishment the signs go up.		Redhill railway station was once called Redhill Junction but as the signpost on the pub sign indicastes, it's the crossroads in the centre of the town that are referred to in this case. Pictures taken 24th - 26th July 2007.

Hooking it on	Looks like they're happy with that	As The Wheatsheaf - Firlot and Firkin - O'Neills was a pub I'd never been in I thought I'd go into the Junction at Redhill. Here's the bar looking south


And the bar looking north	Part of the downstairs bar area

More about the Wheatsheaf
This information is part of an e-mail received from Mark Corrigan, who knew the Wheatsheaf in the 1970s. Mark also knew the Home Cottage, but from a slightly different perspective. More of his e-mail appears on the Home Cottage part of this page. His e-mail address appears on the 'Contacts' page.
My name is Mark Corrigan and I was very pleased to find your site, in particular the pubs feature. I went to Redstone County Secondary Modern in Noke Drive for three years from 1973 to 1976 and have nothing but fond memories of that time. My father, Gerald Corrigan, was Licensee of The Wheatsheaf for a year where we lived on site until moving to The Rocket in Crawley but I carried on my Schooling at Redstone, travelling either by train or moped. The Wheatsheaf was a super pub to live in and I was particularly fond of the Bar Billiards, a game that I was rather good at and played for the pub team despite being under age. We had a function room upstairs (now the upstairs bar) which was the meeting room for the local Buffalo (masons) Lodge. There were certificates and photos of members on the walls but pride of place went to a piece of log which was hollowed out to form an urn which carried the ashes of the lodge's founder and a small plaque. One day when I was cleaning the room following a meeting I noticed the lid was not on properly, as I replaced it I looked inside and found a large cigar butt stuck in it, what respect!

Flying Scud Brighton Road, Earlswood.


Situated on the corner of the Brighton Road (The Cutting) and Woodlands Road a mile south of the town.	The west side of the pub in 2007. There's a wall built in front of it and the original public bar entrance has been bricked up.	An older pictureof the pub showing the original west side entrance


The old public and saloon bars (and probably what was the jug and tap room) have been knocked together to form what is now one bar. This picture shows the centre of the bar	The left (main road) side of the present bar was once the saloon bar.	What was the saloon bar
		NOTES Harry Funnell, born 9.6.1886, started at St John's Infants' School 6.5.1889, parent Joseph Funnell, addresss The Flying Scud, went on to the Boys' School 21.11. 1892 register No. 331) Albert Funnell, born 9.6.1888, started at St John's Infants' School 1.6.1891, parent Joseph Funnell, addresss The Flying Scud, shown as going to the Girls' School 23.11.94 - lucky Albert - (register No. 331) Edward Barnard, born 9.5.1893, started at St John's Infants' School 11.5.1896, parent Joseph Funnell, addresss The Flying Scud, went on to the Boys' School 21.11. 1892 (register No. 820)
The decoration has a maritime theme to correspond with the pub's name	Beers on tap in March 2007 were T.E.A. from the Hogs Head Brewery at Tongham and Courage Best. Other beers guest at various times..

Foresters Arms Shaws Corner

Originally a workhouse and later run as a pub (or Inn) by a member of the Shaw family, at which time it was know as the Hatch, a reference to one of the town gates that is said to have existed close by at one time to prevent animals straying too far along the road.

The Hatch in 1904 before the war memorial was put on the island in the road opposite. The pub is the left hand part of the building pictured.

The following information is from Richard Symonds:
On 26th August 1851 the wheelwrights shop and land was enfranchised from The Earl Somers to Caleb Shaw, who conveyed it on the 30th March the following year to Simeon Shaw, blacksmith. Apparently, the property consisted of a Wheelwright's Shop with stable, formerly a barn belonging to a property known as Ganders, otherwise The Hatch (a copy of the plan from this document is attached).
Simeon had 6 children, Caleb, Charles, Zeporah (who married William Broadbridge, a blacksmith at Charlwood), William, Ester, and Ephrum.
Simeon promptly mortgaged the property to John Shaw on 31st March 1852 . John died Oct 1853 (will proved 12th Oct), and Simeon died Jan 1855 (will proved 20th Jan). The property passed to Caleb, who mortgaged it for £300 to Henry Pullen on 16th July the same year.
On 12th November 1861, the property was sold to John Young, brewer of Dorking for £620, before which time it had already changed from a wheelwrights to a beershop, as Eves census of 1861, gives it as Hereditament 884, and describes it as “a Beershop, workshops and yard, owned by Anne Shaw, and run by William Shaw as a Free House.” It is not clear whether Caleb had died and it was being run by his widow as I have no record of Caleb’s will or when it was proven, or whether Caleb concentrated as a blacksmith in the workshop and he left his wife to run the additional beershop as a means to earn extra income. Whatever the reason, I do have a record of Henry Pullen conveying the property to John Young also on the 12th Nov 1861. Being under mortgage, again it is not clear whether it was a joint agreement to sell, or whether Pullen pulled the plug on Caleb for possible repayment shortfall. That is, however, speculation.
The Petty Sessional Report 1892 describes the Foresters Arms, Reigate Road as a Fully-licensed house, owned by John Young of Dorking, Brewer, and tied to him for trade. It is run by J Garman who resides on the premises. The establishment is frequentsd by Travellers and artisans.
On 21st December 1895, the property was conveyed from John Young to Herbert & Henry Young, most probably a paper exercise to redistribute the estate portfolio of a growing brewery business.
On the 1st July 1897, John Young sold his brewery to Messrs Friary Holroyd & Healy of Guildford, by which time the tenant of the Foresters was Samuel Edwards. Part of the property was still a coachbuilder’s workshop and the occupier of this was a George Palmer.
I have a long gap in my records from here on, except of a record of an agreement between Messrs Friary Holroyd & Healy’s Brewery and Thos Warner dated 30th Dec 1902 concerning the boundary walls of the Foresters Arms.
By Feb 1933, the tenant was H Whiting.
On the 24th Feb 1938, A Phillips took over, but he was killed by enemy action in 1940. His widow remarried to become Mrs S Meadows and continued tenancy until 9th November 1967, when Mr R H Craze took over. He handed on the tenancy to J R Mullenger on 29th August 1974, who in turn passed it to Mr A T Clapp circa March 1977.
I have an incomplete list of proprietors as follows: 1861- ???? William Shaw .......1878-1897 William Edwards......1897- ???? Samuel Edwards......
1882- ???? Richard Price......1891-1895 John Garman......1900-1902 Moses A Freemantle......1903-1905 Edward Pooley......1909-1910 Henry C May......1915-1926 Curwen F Jones......1930-1933 Charles Holder......1933- ???? Henry Whiting......1938-1940 Alfred Phillips......1942-1943 Mrs S Phillips
......1944-1967 Mrs S A Meadows......1967-1974 Robbie and Pat Craze......1974-1977 Mr A T Clapp
As the Forresters Arms (Picture Richard Symonds)

Fountain 81 St John's Road, St John's (previously Fountain Road).
Note: - Where this address came from I don't know for the Fountain pub in the late 1800s was listed as in the St John's District. Later the road it was in was named Fountain Road, a name it retains to this day. Whether it was named after the Fountain pub is unknown.

(This is one pub that I don't have a picture of, so if anyone has a picture they couls share with me I would be very grateful for a copy - AJM)

A beerhouse. Where the 'Fountain' name came from is unknown but there was a well on the green opposite, although in the old days there were wells everywhere. The bar room was at ground level and there were private rooms at a lower level with seven or eight steps down to them. There was also a club room at a higher level. The building was described as a house so presumably did not differ substantially from other houses around it, although it was smaller than the Elm Shades (now Earlswood Arms). Outbuildings included stabling and sanitary accommodations described as being old, so perhaps the house was of the same age, which could have meant one or more centuries.
.....The date of its closure is unknown, although the renewal of its licence was objected to unsuccessfully by the police in 1910, so it was after that date and could have been as late as the early 1950s. The owner at this time was Mr Bransbury of the Redhill Brewery who let it to a licensee at a rent of £30 per year. The licensee also worked as a labourer and the clientele were mainly working men. He, like the building, was described as old, and it was also stated that during the period 1873-1902 there had only been eight tranfers of license, so presumably he had been there since then. Interestingly it was also revealed that another licensed house 'taken away' in 1909 that had been within three hundred yards of the Fountain, and it would be nice to know which this was.
.....The police objections to the licence renewal centred on density of other licenced accomodation locally - they cited the Plough, Elm Shades, the Flying Scud and the Station Hotel (now Chestnut) - compared to the density of local population. They also said it was a long way from the police station. This latter statement also applied to these other ale and beerhouses (there was a difference), and as there were seven beerhouses and six alehouses in total within half a mile radius of the Fountain this seems a weak point. When the police witness, who was Inspector Skeggs, also said there had been no misconduct at the Fountain this must have totally destroyed the case for the police and the licence renewal was granted by magistrates. Finally closed in 1951.

In the 1888 street directory Mr W.B.Porter is listed at the Fountain, so was presumably the Licensee.

Note:
Mary Grace Pattenden b.31.1.1911, address the Fountain , Earlswood, started at St John's Infants' School 3.9.1917. She returned to London 2.11.1917.
On 18.2.1918 she was re-admitted and went to the Girl's School on 31.7.1918

Garland (previously the Anchor) Brighton Road

Built as the Anchor in 1865 and now known as the Garland, presumably at least partly after nearby Garlands Road, which was itself named after a house called Great Garlands whose property it skirted, although the pub stands on the corner of the Brighton Road and Grovehill Road. This is one of the few pubs to which a change of name does at least mean something. It is shown here in the days before the name change and the moving of the door from where it is seen here to a porched entrance left of that position.

Additional information about The Garland (Anchor Hotel) from Richard Symonds.
The Anchor Inn was erected in 1865-6 on land purchased from the British Land Co Ltd on the south side of Grove Hill Road and Brighton Road junction. The site was acquired when various plots of freehold land were put up for auction during August 1864. This site was specifically put aside by the property developer with the possible erection of a tavern in mind. The history of this inn is uneventful; the site was lot 248 and the cost was the sum of £300.
I have examined copies of the following deeds and documents:
- 10 Aug 1864 Conditions of sale of freehold building land.
- 10 Aug 1864 Plan of building land plot 248.
- 27 Aug 1864 Conveyance British Land Co Ltd to William Neale in trust for Messrs Neale & Mellersh.
- 7 Apr 1868 Mortgage Messrs Neale, Mellersh, & Neale to Messrs Mitchell & others.(Mortgage for 28 &1/2 years until Nov 1896)
- 27 Nov 1873. transfer endorsement Mitchell & others to Muir.
- 1892. Reigate Petty-Sessions report: The Anchor, fully licensed house owned by and tied by trade to Mellersh & Neale. Run by F E Reynolds who resides on the premises. Frequented by artisans & labourers.
- 26 Nov 1896 Reconveyance also endorsed Muir to Mellersh & Neale.
- 1 Oct 1962 Omnibus Conveyance Mellersh & Neale Ltd to Friary meux.
- document dated 1938 quoting the quarterly tenancy rent at £55 per annum. (It was freehold to M&N, but the landlord paid the rent as a tenant of M&N.)
List of tenants provided by Richard Symonds 1878. Edward Manning - 1882 Edward Langridge - 1891 Frank Edmund Reynolds - 1895 David Leach - 1900-02 Thomas Gowering - 1903-1905 Frank J Ingram - 1909-1936 Arthur Hall - 1940 S F Rayson - 1942-68 Henry William Hodd

Email re Anchor/Garland pub,
Interesting reading through your page on pubs, my father Roy Woolsey was landlord of the Elm Shades for over 20 years during 70s 80s and 90s. He also was the landlord in charge of the Anchor and was responsible for renovating and renaming it to the Garland. I ran the Garland for quite a few years in the early 90s.We as a family, have lived in Redhill for nearly 40 years, originally living in the house next door to the Elm Shades (24, Fountain Road St Johns) I now live on the old General Hospital Site, St Johns Park, where I was born, my youngest now goes to St Johns, where I also attended as a child. If you need any further info on these premises, or are missing any info on the above areas I will be only too happy to help. Andy Woolsey

Garibaldi Mill St

This pub, like the nearby road, was presumably named after Giuseppe Garibaldi, the Italian patriot, who made a couple of trips to this country in the mid 19th century. In 1933 the Garibaldi pub applied, for the second year running, for a wine licence and was refused. Argument for was that men out walking on the common would often have a glass of beer and ask for a wine, port or sherry for accompanying ladies. Record kept of such requests behind the bar did not include the names of the customers making the requests, and so failed to impress the magistrates. They said that just down the road was the New Inn which did have a full licence, people could go there. Protests that the New Inn catered for a totally different clientele fell on deaf ears and the upgrade to a full licence was refused.

The Garibaldi as it is today

The Garibaldi in days gone by

Gatton Point At Gatton Point at the northern end of London Road, Redhill,

This pub carried the name of its location, and that localition seemed ideal with the Technical College just across the road, but perhaps the students did not put enough money across the counter, there were too few regulars and the ground it occupied was more valuable as a housing site, which is what replaced it after was it closed and demolished in 1997.

The Gatton Point in the 1960s after a serious fire. (Picture courtesy Bob Sargent)	The pub c1973 when it was known as the Gatton Point Hotel, although adverts described it as non-residential. Run in its later days by by E.W.Coleman it was spacious and comfortable inside. It is possible that the building started life as a private house, being built between 1861 and 1871.


The building around 1990 after it had been painted black on the outside. It closed and was demolished in 1997

George and Dragon

see 'Dragon'

Greyhound Brighton Road - Upper picture shows the Greyhound in Shepherd Neame livery, the lower one in Friary Meux livery. Note that there is no outside seating area in either picture. This is seen in the last picture below.

Information from Richard Symonds. The deeds for this Inn show the following: - 9 Sep 1861. Notice of sale by Auction. Lot 12 Freehold building land with paddock, 2 roods and 5 perches. 24 Aug 1864. Counterpart lease. John Moody and his mortgagees to messrs Nalder & Collyer of Croydon, brewers. 21 Dec 1877. Fire policy - Royal exchange Assurance Co Policy no 962562. 1884. Abstract of title of Frederick John Pfeill. 10 Nov 1884, conveyance Pfeill to Mellersh & Neale.
14 Nov 1884, authority & request, Pfeill to Mellersh & Neale.
20 Nov 1884, acknowledgement of right of production of deeds, Pfeill to Mellersh & Neale. 21 Nov 1884, mortgage, Mellersh & neale to J Biggerstaff. 12 Dec 1895, reconveyance endorsed, Biggerstaff's executors to Mellersh & Neale.
The 1892 petty Sessional report described the Greyhound, Brighton Road, Redhill, as a fully licenced house owned and tied for trade by Mellersh & Neale of Reigate, brewers, run by J Moody who resided on the premises. It said that the Inn was frequented by Travellers and tradesmen.
A trust deed of 1899 seen by myself describes the property, the Greyhound, owned by Mellersh & Neale Ltd, together with three cottages and a right of way.

Landlords include: - 1892-1901 John Moody - 1902-1910 Mrs Emily Moody - 1915 John Moody junior - 1923-1926 Jesse Moody - 1926-1948. Mrs Jesse E Shaw (did Jesse Moody get married?) - 1951. Douglas L Hardy - 1954. Herbert William Beagley - 1956. M J Bone - 1966-1968 G A Cassell

Emails re Greyhound
Maurice Stovell from Canada emailed to say: "The Greyhound was a pub I remembered well from my Redhill days. With friends I used the pub quite often. There was a large cellar where a jazz club was held. Some of the groups that played there can now be heard on records."
Thanks for that, Maurice. Does anyone else remember the Jazz Club?

Douglas T. Moody emailed to say: "I have been investigating my family history. My Great Grandfather John Moody was the licencee of the Greyhound - he also had a Wheelwright and Carriage workshop opposite the Greyhound Pub at 113 Brighton Road (now a car showroom). John Moody Jnr (his eldest son) took over both businesses after John Moody snr died in 1900. The wife of John Moody Jnr (Jesse Moody) took over until her death in 1924. They had a daughter also called Jesse and I think she married a Mr. Shaw and took over as Mrs Jesse Shaw. In the 1901 census another daughter of John Moody Snr., Emily Moody, was listed as Assistant Innkeeper and she died in 1936 (unmarried). She was my Grandfather's (William Moody) sister. In "The Redhill Story" by Nigel Dunne there is a picture of John Moody Snr's Coach & Wheelwright business. I have a copy of John Moody Snr's will in which he is described as Coachbuilder Wheelwright and Licensed Victualler. They are all buried in St. John's Church graveyard, Redhill. My father Douglas Moody Snr was born at 85 Earlsbrook Road, Redhill. The house was destroyed by a doodle bug during the last war and a more modern house stands on the site."
This confirms the note in the 'Landlords' section above. Thanks for the information, Douglas.

Brian Rice also emailed: "As a child (10-12) living at 66 Garlands Rd, I can remember being allowed to pass through the side entrance of the Greyhound with the permission of the formidable Jesse Shaw to spend the evenings in her private sitting room while my mother and father enjoyed a drink in the saloon bar at the rear of the building. Jesse was a very large lady and frightened the life out of me, in contrast to her husband (Joe?) who was very small - she was without doubt 'The Landlord' At the rear of the sitting room a flight of steps lead down to a a kitchen where the glasses were washed with a strong smell of washing soda. Further steps lead to to the function room which contained a full sized billiard table. I remember quite clearly being called out one night into the Brighton Road along with the customers to see the glow of of the Surrey Docks burning.
Thanks for your reminiscences, Brian. Every little bit of information adds to our knowledge of Redhill's past history.

From Mark Beasley: In the late 60s / early 70s (and probably before and after) the low room at the back of the Greyhound (shown in one of your photographs) was used for many rock and jazz gigs. Rock was on Friday evenings, Modern Jazz on Sunday evenings. Many top British modern jazz artists performed there, including Keith Tippett, Don Weller, Alan Skidmore and Elton Dean. While the rock bands were not quite so famous, the venue was on the London pub circuit so the standard (and the volume) was perhaps higher than such a small venue could reasonably have expected. To a schoolboy (as I was at the time) it all seemed impossibly groovy - we once saw Joolie Driscoll in the bar on a Jazz night - and the thick haze of smoke that filled the room (little of it legal I suspect) also made a lasting impression!
Thanks, Mark, much appreciated. See also the Lakers for more information form Mark

From Andree McDade: - Yes, there was a jazz club back of Greyhound, I was one of many barmaids there. Also on Friday nights there was an 'arts workshop' and sometimes on a Saturday a Rocker's night, bikers would come down as far as Croydon.
Thanks for your memories of the Greyhound, Andree. There's more from Andree on the Lakers section.

Author's notes: -
While I am fairly familiar with some of the the pubs on this page there are others I have never been in during the 65 years I've lived in or near Redhill, the Greyhound being one. On the 6th November 2005 the wife and I walked up to the pub whilst watching the veteran cars passing through the town during the 'Old Crock's Run'. We had intended to go the the top of the Brighton Road but the wonderful aroma of bacon being cooked under cover outside the Greyhound stopped us dead. There was coffeee inside so as it was rainining we took our bacon sandwiches inside and had coffee too. While there we met the couple running the Greyhound as well as some of the regulars and I had the chance to take some pictures, shown below. The pub is greatly changed from the 'old' days, its once separate bars having been knocked into one. Once there would have been a lounge bar, a public bar, a tap (a room where people could buy jugs of beer to take away without going into the bar) and a kitchen, all of which now combine to form the main area of the pub. The bar may or may not have been rearranged or remodelled as it's centrally placed. A couple of years ago I met a man who had been landlord of the Greyhound in the 1940s. He referred to a function room which was possibly a room on the first floor front that has since been divided into two rooms. It was a pleasure to meet the present landlord and his wife, Choppa and Sandy, who have been there for four months. AJM November 2005


The 'cellar' referred to by Maurice Stovell and the 'function room' mentioned by Brian Rice.	A view of the bar from its south end	A view of the bar from the north end


What was once a kitchen has been opened up as extra bar area to house a pool table	The rather nice cooking range in what was once a kitchen	A front view of the Greyhound 7.11.2005

The Greyhound in April 2003 when it had curtains at the front windows	The article in the Surrey Mirror of 12th October 2007 saying that the Greyhound would close at the end of the month	The Greyhound closed and with a 'for sale' sign up on the day of the Old Crocks run, 4th November 2007

Hatch see 'Foresters'

Holmethorpe Arms, Holmethorpe

Another establishment named after where it was, although its exact position on the Holmethorpe estate is unknown. It lost its licence in 1884 and became a coffee tavern. Somewhen between then and now it disappeared completely. .

Home Cottage Cavendish Road


The Home Cottage around the turn of the century (Picture courtesy Richard Symonds)	The Home Cottage c1914 after alterations (picture courtesy HNHC)	The Home Cottage today

Information from Richard Symonds
Eves census 1861 (property no. 122) shows a Public house and yard owned and run by William Stevenson. The Petty Sessional Report of 1892 described the Home Cottage Inn, Redhill Station, as fully licensed and owned and tied for trade to Mr Bartrum’s Tunbridge Brewery. Run by W H Kneale who resided on the premises. The Inn was frequented by railway porters, gardeners, and labourers.
Newspaper reports show the following: - (1) Borough Bench Monday Jan 19^th 1874. The licence of the Home cottage was transferred from Mr Stevenson to J Palmer. (2) July 1879. Golden wedding Mr & Mrs Stevenson – was for 24 years proprietor of the well known Home Cottage adjacent to Redhill Junction – he was previously for a period of 6 months at the Plough Inn on Earlswood Common.
Richard adds the following: - 'It was run in the late 19th cent by the Dartford Brewery of Tonbridge. I used to drink there in the 1970s when it was a free house owned by a Miss Starr. She told me that the licence was originally held (in the 18th cent) by a beershop at the top of Redstone Hollow, called the LURCHER, and the licence passed to the Home Cottage at the turn of the 19th century.' She also told him that the pub had been in her family for 3 generations. She said that her grandmother apparently bought the pub in 1897 (apparently as Kelly’s directory records William Henry Neale’s widow as still being there until 1900), and it was here that she was born in 1901. She was brought up in the pub with her sister and two brothers while her mother Jane ran the pub; Sybil took over from her mother in 1939. Sybil wasn’t really cut out to be a publican as she had trained as a photographer locally and had also studied art. She said that she had never had a day off in 40 years apart from only one holiday being a trip to Canada in 1951. She sold the pub to Young & Co’s Ram Brewery, Wandsworth in 1978 when she retired.
List of proprietors: 1849 – 1874. William Stevenson.
1874 - ? J. Palmer 1878 – 1882. John Farmer (see note below from Colin Goldsmith re John Farmer) 1891 - c1895. William Henry Kneale 1895 – 1900 Mrs Kneale 1900 – 1915 Frederick Star (address given as 3, Redstone Hill) 1923 – 1939 Mrs Jane Star 1939 – 1978. Miss Sybil Star 1978 – onwards Malcolm Dougal (Young & Cos Brewery, Wandsworth).
Home Cottage continued
Here's more of the e-mail from Mark Corrigan referring to the Home Cottage (for the first part see the Firlot and Firkin)
The Home Cottage which was, unusually, a wooden building with outside toilets. Many pupils of Redstone started their drinking in this pub (mostly under age I might add) as it was close to school but generally not frequented by the teachers. The main reason though was that it was run by a real character, a lady called Sybil Starr who was, I guess, in her seventies and I believe she was actually born in the pub and was the last of a long line of her family to run it. She was much loved by everyone but being so old made her a poor judge whether or not someone was under age, hence our patronage. We even used to stop for a pint whilst doing cross country runs in our P.E. lessons (dressed in P.E. kit) when we didn't do the full run up Redstone Hill and back but took a detour to the Home Cottage, had a drink then waited for the serious runners to pass. We could then follow along at a more leisurely pace. When we got a bit older we started drinking in the public bar at The Lakers Hotel opposite, which had two bar billiards tables. - Details for Mark, including his e-mail address, appear on the contacts page.
And this from Colin Goldsmith in Nov. 2003: - John Farmer (the brother of my Great Grandmother Elizabeth Goldsmith nee Farmer) was innkeeper of the Home Cottage at the time of the 1881 census with his wife Mary Farmer, and his daughter Kate was barmaid there. It looks as if they may have been there since about 1875 when they moved to Redhill. (There is more from Colin concerning the Railway Belle)

Huntsman High Street

The Huntsman was part of Sam Marsh's stables, where Woolworths now is (the man with the hand cart is directly outside it).
It catered exclusively for hunting men, their servants, liverymen and coachmen and not to the general public. It had stabling for 15 to 20 horses. It comprised an office, a serving bar and a kitchen, with access from the office to the bar via the kitchen and with the office also being used as a public room. It was in existence there in 1910 and seems to have had the status more of a club than a public house, there being no sign outside. In this early 1900s picture it is on the left, with only the Wheatsheaf's back yard between it and the Wheatsheaf. (picture Alan Moore)

The same building in the late 1800s when the premises were owned by Sam Marsh's predecessor, Mr Robins. As well as horsemen there is a pack of hounds; to see them setting off from central Redhill must have been quite something. Note that the original Wheatsheaf is also to be seen right of picture; it was the proximity of several other pubs in the town that prevented a spirit licence being obtained (see below)

Information from Richard Symonds
The Huntsman was a beerhouse and the Petty Sessional Report of 1892 shows it at the High Street, Redhill, being licensed prior to 1869 and run by S Marsh of Redhill as a Free House. Frequented by Hunters and grooms. It is interesting to note that several attempts were made to apply for a full licence but all were turned down. Three newspaper cuttings are as follows:
March 1878 - Mr Charles Robins intends to try once more for a spirit licence for the Huntsman Inn, Redhill.
April 1878 - The Borough Magistrates have again declined to grant a spirit licence to the Huntsman at Red Hill.
April 1879 - The Huntsman Beerhouse, Red Hill, again refused a spirit licence at County Petty Sessions held March 4^th

Jolly Brickmakers Frenches Road

Reflecting the nature of an area where, due to the nature of the soil, brick-making material was readily available.

Joshua Tree Earlswood Common -